How Old is Your Mother?
Here is the question:
In recent years, I have learned that there are two schools of thoughts about the age of the earth from a creationist point of view. Truthfully, I had heard about this earlier, but avoided exploring it until recently due to spiritual immaturity. I still feel spiritually immature in many ways, but I also feel that I am now ready to explore these details a little deeper without the fear it could “shake” my faith. While I understand this topic is not a salvation issue in itself, it does appear to serve as a barrier to others who have little or no faith at all which is why I deem it important for me to understand as a Christian. I have a basic understanding about the fundamental beliefs of both views, but find myself unconvinced that either side has really “figured” it out.
Question for Tentpegs blog:
What is young earth vs old earth theories, where do you stand in the debate (if at all) and why?
I visited Sea World Orlando this week and loved it. It was my fourth trip to Sea World and I never tire of seeing the wonderful animals they have gathered. They are very involved in rescue and conservation and that appeals to me. After watching boats speeding up and down the Intercoastal Waterway right past "No Wake" signs, it angered me to see the scars on the backs of the manatees in the rescue exhibit but it also made me appreciate the good folk at Sea World and their dedication to these fascinating beasts.
Before the Shamu show, there was a film about the need to conserve and save the planet. It stressed that we are all connected to everything and finished by showing different animals, under which would be a term such as "father," "sister", "brother" and ending with a picture of our beautiful blue planet with the word "mother" underneath. I sighed. The name of the Shamu show then flashed up in huge letters: "Believe!"
Atheism is as much a religion as any faith that has churches and clergy. Even most atheists admit that — at least most that I meet (and I meet a ton of them since I travel in scientific circles at various universities). One of the things that atheists need is time… lots and lots of time. Francis Crick, David Berlinski, Chandra Wickramasinghe and other scientific giants insist that mathematics proves that time is an enemy of undirected evolution, not its friend (see interesting related article at http://universitypress.info/MythologiesOfScience.pdf).
Look at it this way: our DNA is far more complex than a thousand page book, but assume it isn’t for a moment. You have a thousand pages — loose, unbound — of a novel. You drop it from six feet. What are the odds that it stays in order? Not very good, right? What if you say "it needed more time to organize!" so you drop it from ten thousand feet? Time is not your friend. When we look at complex systems, time leads to disorganization. Some claim the second law of thermodynamics doesn’t apply here, that chaos can randomly organize into workable systems but such has never been demonstrated to have occurred and, if it did, it would then immediately begin to disorganize. Such is the nature of the universe in which we find ourselves.
I agree with the questioner — this is not a salvation issue. If you believe that Hugh Ross or the Intelligent Design people are right, or if you follow Greg Boyd (who teaches that this is a planet that has been destroyed by God in the past and then repopulated), I understand your thinking and appreciate your hard work. I, however, have no problem with the idea that this planet could be as young as 10,000 years or so. I don’t know how old it actually is, but a young earth makes a certain amount of scientific sense.
Everything eats and everything depends on everything else (yes, this is overstated, but Sea World says it so who am I to disagree???). That means that we need everything in place. It makes more sense, then, to assume that it was created with its systems in place. One of my favorite authors was the late Douglas Adams, an atheist whose only god was Dawkins. His writings were full of humor that relied on placing things outside of their system and mining the resulting hilarity (a whale appearing high above the earth, falling, and thinking "not again" for example). He failed to see the irony: his nonbelief in God would require that things appeared randomly, outside of systems, and that systems themselves were entirely random. That would result in a lot of whale splatter…
God said that everything was created full grown, ready to reproduce after its kind. The answer to the question: which came first, the chicken or the egg? would be — a chicken with an egg in it, in other words. Yes, there are aspects of the world that look ancient, but let’s ask another question first: how old was Adam two minutes after he was born? The answer would be "two minutes" but he looked fully grown, in his sexual, physical, and mental prime. So how old is the earth? I will NOT fight my brothers who believe otherwise, but it may look a lot older than it actually is due to the way it was designed to be fully functional, able to supply all we need for life’s continuance.
Jesus seemed to believe the Old Testament stories. The New Testament quotes or refers to the first 11 chapters of Genesis around 100 times. Jesus told the men on the road to Emmaus that they were to believe what Moses wrote. He demanded that we believe Moses’ writings (John 5:46,47). Jesus showed absolute control over nature, multiplying matter as he fed the 5000, walking on water, etc. indicating that immediate creative power was something he was comfortable wielding. He said that "from the beginning" God had made us male and female (Matthew 19:4-6; literally "AT the beginning"). In the same context, he quotes from Genesis 1:27 and 2:24, indicating that he didn’t think they were contradictory creation accounts.
He believed that Abel was a real person (Matthew 23:25) and he believed that the flood of Noah was a real event (Matthew 24:37-39). Luke runs Jesus’ genealogy back to Adam "who was the son of God." Jesus refers to Abel as the first of the martyrs (Luke 11:50,51) and said that the blood of the martyrs was spilled "from the foundation of the world." Hmmm.
I don’t believe the earth is really my mother. My mother is a cute Irish lady. My earthly father is Bill, but the Father who made all — and who was wise enough to make it right — is God. If I get to heaven and find out that He made it over millions of years, I won’t feel cheated… but I have no problem in believing in a quick creation. Yes, Sea World, after seeing all those animals and seeing the wonder of the universe, I believe… but not in Mother Earth. I believe in the One Who made it.
While we may differ on this and numerous other bits and pieces, I remind all of us that it is our faith in Jesus that saves us. One day, he will make it all plain.